This week’s show is with the amazing Dr Joanna LaPrade. Joanna LaPrade, M.A. Ph.D., is a Registered Psychotherapist, author, speaker, and educator.

Joanna LaPrade, M.A. Ph.D., earned her doctorate in Jungian and archetypal psychology from Pacifica Graduate Institute. She is now the founder of Aion Psychotherapy and a practicing Jungian psychotherapist in Colorado. Her therapeutic work focuses on helping clients find a meaningful connection to their inner worlds.

Outside of her practice, Dr. LaPrade is a speaker and educator whose expertise focus on myth, psyche, and the Jungian and archetypal perspective. She is also the author of Forged in Darkness: The Many Paths of Personal Transformation, a book that unites self-discovery with mythology, to handle an important dilemma of our times—how to navigate the darkness of life.

In this conversation, Dr Joanna and Lian dived deep into an exploration, inspired by the question of: What is true growth?

They nerded out on telos, fate, astrology, and symbols, and the inherent paradox and challenges we’re brought present to whilst journeying on this path.

I’d love to know what YOU think about this week’s show. Let’s carry on the conversation… please leave a comment below.

What you’ll learn from this episode:

• Joanna shared Jung’s self-reflective question of “Who am I to have this happen to me?” - this is an orientation to our lives that can invite and open us into having a deep intimacy with ourselves.

• Allowing symbols to emerge and yet, holding them lightly and allowing the space for the tension of not knowing allows more to arise

• What will help you to hold the tension between the known and unknown, to journey with the deep questions without needing to kill the questions or fix the problem?

Resources and stuff that we spoke about:

• For more information about Dr. Joanna’s work, visit www.aionpsychotherapy.com

• Books mentioned:

  • The Sound of Bells by Norah Moore

  • Jung’s Studies in Astrology: Prophecy, Magic, and the Qualities of Time by Liz Greene

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Lian and Jonathan

This week’s show is with Maggy Whitehouse. Maggy Whitehouse is an independent sacramental minister, a lifetime student of Judaeo-Christian mysticism, the author of 20 books on spirituality, mysticism and Bible metaphysics and started out as a stand-up comedian at the age of 56.

She was a finalist in the 2015 UK Funny Women Awards. Maggy has worked in newspapers, radio, TV, for the BBC’s famed World Service and, most recently, was Sunday morning faith presenter for BBC Radio Devon. She made it on to Wikipedia after writing a sensible book about Opus Dei at the time of all the palaver over The Da Vinci Code.

She has been widowed, divorced, healed from cancer, worked as a hospice chaplain, ridden on a Bengal tiger and survived a barracuda attack off the Barrier Reef.

Both Maggy’s mother and her Bishop think she should get a proper job.

In this show, Lian and Maggy explored resistance, specifically through the lens of how it shows up in the form of temptations to avoid expressing our soul’s truth, how we can tell when it’s showing up (by design it’s sneaky), and how we can learn to orient back to our souls and God.

I’d love to know what YOU think about this week’s show. Let’s carry on the conversation…  please leave a comment below.

What you’ll learn from this episode:

• Noticing your ‘Should’s and ‘Yes but’s… they are clues to resistance showing up

• Make your connection to the Divine a priority, do it first and often, 30 seconds of meditation, lighting a candle, going to your altar, speaking a prayer… a little goes a long way to taking you back to your soul

• Let the light of your own unique soul be that which helps others to navigate back to theirs

Resources and stuff that we spoke about

• Maggy’s Website that you can check out:

  • maggywhitehouse.com

  • treeofsapphires.com

• Listen to Maggy’s podcast: Train Wrecks for Jesus. Introducing Mark and Maggy

• The Chapel of Liberation meditation that Maggy offered: here’s a link to her podcast in which she shares it

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This week’s show is with Wendy Dooner. Wendy Dooner is a Medical Herbalist and Shamanic Practitioner from Scotland who is passionate about reconnecting women with the innate healing wisdom of nature and their bodies.

Wendy graduated from university in 2005 with a Bachelor of Science (honours) degree in Herbal Medicine (Phytotherapy) and, more recently, a 3-year advanced Shamanic Practitioner course. Weaving back together the threads of science, magic and spirituality in herbal medicine has been a major focus of her practice recently and is a cornerstone of her teachings; she now practices what she has called Shamanic Herbalism. Through her online courses, workshops, or one-on-one consultations, Wendy ensures that this wonderful blend of ancient wisdom and modern science reaches all her students.

At the heart of Wendy's practice is her profound connection with her native medicinal plants. She believes that these plants hold the answers to many of our modern ailments.

In her practice, Wendy doesn't just prescribe herbs; she introduces her clients to a world where plants are people; they are teachers, guides, allies and elders. She believes that every plant has a story to tell and a lesson to impart, and it's her mission to facilitate these transformative conversations between nature and the individual.

She lives happily in a small community in the foothills of the Cairngorms in Scotland with her husband and 2 young sons, where she forages in the wilds of the moorlands, grows herbs in her messy garden and skateboards at every spare opportunity.

In this show, Lian and Wendy explored our experience and understanding of autistic people, and maybe especially women, being designed to be healers, how the very aspects of ourselves that have created struggles, can be used in service of helping others to heal, and what we’ve seen can be helpful to alchemise those challenges into gold.

I’d love to know what YOU think about this week’s show. Let’s carry on the conversation…  please leave a comment below.

What you’ll learn from this episode:

• As both Lian and Wendy’s experiences showed, being late diagnosed as a woman can bring its own emotions and challenges - there’s a reckoning and grieving needed in order to move forward into claiming the gifts that autism brings

• Pattern recognition, empathy, adherence to ritual, openness to spirits and other realms, and attention to detail are all aspects of autism that can be used in service of supporting others in their journey to wholeness

• Diving into the work of reclaiming the unwanted and hidden parts of us is challenging for most people but maybe especially for autistic people for whom there has been an even greater challenge, necessity, and effort needed to fit in and function - it requires the right support and readiness, and we can be helped by understanding and using some of the very same gifts we will ultimately serve to others.

Resources and stuff that we spoke about

• Visit Wendy’s Website:

  • wendydooner.com

  • The Center for Shamanism: Shamanic Herbal 1:1 with Wendy

• Follow The Center of Shamanism in Social Media:

  • Facebook: Wendy Dooner

  • Instagram: @wendy.shamanicherbalist

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Lian and Jonathan